The Presbyter

 

 

The newsletter of the Presbytery of Hamilton

 

No 7 - December 2002

 

 

Editor: Rev Les Thorne, Hatherleigh, 9 Chatton Walk, Coatbridge ML5 4FH (01236 432 241)

e-mail: les.thorne@presbyteryofhamilton.co.uk to whom all contributions should be sent two weeks before presbytery next meets

 

 

FROM THE EDITOR

 

Those who attended the recent Presbytery Conference on the reorganisation plan may be disappointed that no conclusion was reached, that in fact it got no further than discussing procedure - and even that was remitted to the Business and Review Committees to consider further.

Whatever one’s view of the proposals, or even the need to reorganise Presbytery, it is worrying, to say the least, to note that Presbytery appears unable even to manage change, never mind agree any changes which may be desirable or necessary. And that is the responsibility of us all, whatever position we hold.

Conveners, Committees, etc are all appointed by us - we need not accept the nominations put forward - we need not even accept the make up of the Nomination Committee. It is the duty of every Presbyter to scrutinise nominations, and deliverances, however tedious that may be. And it is also the responsibility of every Presbyter to know Standing Orders, or at least obtain clarification of them, if necessary, because, whether we like it or not, that is the way in which Presbytery operates, unless we decide to change it.

Let us hope that the recall Conference in January, to which we have agreed, will come to some conclusions, and bring an end to what has so far been fruitless discussion for much too long.

 

 

CONGREGATIONAL MAGAZINES

 

Received for the first time this month is ‘Centre’,  the magazine produced by St John’s, Hamilton.

It is produced in the usual A5 booklet format, with a green cover.

The theme for the November issue was ‘Going for Green’ covering, as you might expect, the congregation’s efforts in recycling and encouraging members to think about their use of the earth’s resources. It’s also good to see that Presbytery activities and news from the wider church  are also featured alongside the usual congregational activities.

Dalziel St Andrew's’ magazine ‘Kirk Matters’, features Remembrance Day on the cover, and contains a lively mix of features, including a book review and church news. The back cover also gives the credits - the names of those who, often unseen and unnoticed, work so hard to make sure it is in members’ hands month by month.

 

 

NEXT ISSUE OF The Presbyter

 

Since Presbytery does not meet in January, the next issue will be at the February meeting. My apologies for having to hold some material over until next year.

 

 

THE MEETING This poem has been passed on by Rev Lindsay Schlüter.

She does not know the source or writer. Can anyone help? 

 

Where were you Lord?

We called the meeting, for Monday evening

the 26th June.

All members were there,

except you.

Where were you Lord?

I went to speak and lost my thread,

I couldn’t think,

what sounded good in my head,

as words came out, they came out dead.

Our bodies sat on boring chairs,

our faces looked into each others’

and saw nothing real.

That’s how I knew you weren’t there.

I was stiff, dumb,

and seemed stuck to my chair. My child, I couldn’t make the meeting.

I was at an opening,

the petals of a garden daisy,

and an evening enjoying the fragrance

of the night scented stock.

I was in the evening breeze

that called my heart to be

a cooling on my heated world.

In the rain, the sheet lightning, I sent

through the committee of nature’s elements.

I roared away my wrath in the thunder.

Where were you child?

I was waiting in the moment,

in the flowers and the trees

and the poppy head

that would not break

in the storm I sent,

nor let its colour run,

and turn the green grass red.

In the laughing from my belly

and the weeping from my heart,

in the beauty and the brokenness

of the world I love.

Have I got your attention, child

Can we start?

Can we start?

 

 

LETTER TO THE EDITOR (Letters are welcome. They do not necessarily reflect the views of Presbytery, or the Editor)

 

20 November 2002

Sir,

Surely there can be no more compelling evidence for

the need for Presbytery "Review and Reform" than the impasse reached amid the welter of procedural technicalities at last night's conference.

I rest my case.

John Dickson

(Airdrie: Broomknoll, Additional Elder)]

 

STATE EDUCATION MATTERS

 

Most Presbyters will be aware by now of the radical proposals by North Lanarkshire Council for the provision of Nursery, Primary and Secondary education. Presbytery is represented on N Lanarkshire Council’s Education Committee by Rev James Munton who will, no doubt, look at the proposals with our State Education Committee.

While there is insufficient space here to go into detail, it can be said that much of the finance for the reorgansation is to be raised through the PPP initiative, which means, in effect, that commercial organisations build and operate the new schools, charging the Council for their services. There has been much talk of the cost implications of such schemes, and it is unclear as to whether or not they are best value for money, or if they will cost more, in the long run, for future generations of taxpayers.

Presbytery’s main concern is, of course, with the provision of religious education in schools, and it is disappointing to note that while there are to be ‘shared campuses’ in some areas, between Roman Catholic and non-denominational schools, a sectarian approach has been maintained. There will be many people, not just in churches, concerned as to the implications of this, in a society which is increasingly diverse. We may wonder what the effect will be if, or perhaps when, non-Christian religions begin to demand, as they are at present entitled, separate religious schools. Is there is the danger of fragmenting our universal education system, and if so, is it a prospect which so far seems to have gone unaddressed?

 

PRESBYTERY WORLD MISSION CONFERENCE

By George Baird

 

 

On 16th November the Presbytery held a conference in Dalziel St Andrew’s Halls in Motherwell. It was attended by 43 people representing 25 of the parishes in the Presbytery.

The conference had an opening address by Dr Daleep Mukarjee, who is Director of Christian Aid. He spoke of his early life as a doctor in India and of how he had set up clinics in outlying districts with the help of Christian Aid funding. His involvement with the organisation had developed over the years and he is now its Director. Dr Mukarjee went on to outline some of the work of Christian Aid and related cases where its help has been of major significance in the improvement of the welfare and wellbeing of individuals and communities.

The representatives present then attended three workshop sessions.

One was on Fair Trade, and the Trade Rules, led by Eildon Dyer. She spoke on a current campaign which is being led by Christian Aid, calling for fairer trade in the world and asking for legislation to be changed. She also spoke of the important role of the World Trade Organisation, and how regulation of transnational corporations was essential.

The second session was led by a representative from the Co-operative Wholesale Society, Pat McNaughton. She spoke on the principles behind the Fair Trade Movement and gave examples of how individuals and communities had been helped by this approach to trade. She went on to say that the Co-op had become involved in the sale of fairly traded goods and in fact, the Co-op now produces a range of its own brand of goods made and distributed under fair trade principles. This has proved very successful for the Co-op movement, as well as benefiting the producers of the raw materials. We are all encouraged to look out for the ‘Fair Trade’ logo.

The third session was due to have been taken by Carol Finlay, Assistant Secretary of the Church of Scotland Board of World Mission, but she was unable to take part, and her place was taken by Rev Klaus Buwert, Convener of Presbytery’s World Mission Committee. He led a discussion on how the representatives had become involved in World Mission work and the interest which was shown by each congregation.

Discussion also took place on how better communications could be introduced.

 The Conference closed with an act of worship.

COURSES AND LECTURES

 

 

The following are available through the Board of Ministry.

More details from Shaw Paterson, or direct from Edinburgh.

The 2003 Warrack Lectures 13-15 April 2003:

Creative Adventures in Biblical Preaching, by Professor Paul Scott Wilson from Canada.

Advance registration is necessary, with Mrs Dorothy Davidson at the Board of Ministry.

Joint Institute of Theology

Offered by the Board of Ministry, St Mary’s College, and Princeton Theological Seminary will take place in St Andrews from 11 to 22 August   2003.  Speakers include Dr John Swinton from Aberdeen University and Professor John Barclay from Glasgow University.

Overcoming Violence -

Policies and Strategies

Gartmore House,  Monday 3 to Friday 7 November 2003. Among some of the areas to be considered are: bullying and harassment; religious bigotry; world debt; sexual violence; social exclusion; and the language of violence.

 

 

Deadlines for Study Leave applications in 2002/2003:

Monday 2 December 2002

Monday 3 March 2003

Monday 2 June 2003 

Monday 6 October 2003

For those wishing to use Study Leave for any of the events listed, or for other events, applications should normally be submitted to the Board of Ministry at least three months ahead of the event.

Contact Details:

 

Rev Angus R. Mathieson  (e-mail: amathieson@cofscotland.org.uk)

Rev Nigel J Robb (e-mail: nrobb@cofscotland.org.uk)

Mrs Dorothy Davidson (e-mail: ddavidson@cofscotland.org.uk)

Mrs Fiona Cunningham (e-mail: fcunningham@cofscotland.org.uk)

 

HAMILTON PRESBYTERY - children’s ministry 2003

 

A REFRESHER COURSE FOR NEW AND

INEXPERIENCED LEADERS

THE FUNDAMENTAL ASPECTS OF

TEACHING CHILDREN IN CHURCH’

 

19 January - 2 February

at Cadzow Parish Church, Hamilton

course fee £10.00 contact Sheena Wilson (01355 222 027)

 

 

Church Education Committee Courses

 

Jan-March What is a leader?

 

15 Jan-12 Feb Christian Life and Work

20 Feb-13 March Knowing and doing the will of God

13 Jan-24 March

Caring (incl dementia issues)

19 Feb-12 March

full details/registration

David Geddes (01355 235 998)

geddes@the holdings.freeserve.co.uk

 

 

Souls & Singers holy night  - a mix of traditional and contemporary festive music

on Sunday 15th December at 7 30 pm in St Columba’s Church  Thrashbush Road Airdrie

£3.00 including Festive Supper.

Details from Margaret Currie 01236 763 173